During our visit last November, Five Points had brewed 660HL the previous month, and was on course to have produced 6000HL (105,000 UK pints) in 2015, a sum split across keg, which is its most popular format, accounting for around 50%. The other half is split between cask, cans and bottles.

But this figure will rise next year. A move from electric heating elements to steam has brought the brew time of its popular ‘Pale’ down from 8.5 hours to six. A lack of space at its Hackney Downs railway arches has resulted in three new 60BBL tanks being installed in the grounds outside, a move Hobbs proudly says that they managed to win the council around on.

But doubling capacity is not without its hurdles, explains Hobbs, pointing to a new fence of bamboo surrounding its site. The consideration for the aesthetic impact such an installation could have on nearby residential properties has seen Five Points ‘green up’ their site, while also installing noise reduction systems outside, too. A nice touch.

The focus on community, and giving back to it, is not something the Five Points team over-analyse.

“We are part of this community, and is part of our ethos. Being a living wage employer, and giving back to the community is important. Being in business isn’t only about the bottom line,” says Mason.

So much so, that in addition to paying the living wage, the business runs an apprenticeship scheme for 18-24 year olds in Hackney, sources its electricity from 100% renewable sources, and is committed to reinvesting 5% of our profits in local charities and community projects. “There should be an emphasis on welfare, projects, and other elements that are the right thing to do,” he adds.

Team Five Points currently comprises 14 full- time staff, thanks to the new arrivals of delivery driver Simon and an addition to sales, Francesca. A new apprentice is also expected, too, which will still mean that the brewery runs a tight ship.